Tragedy was to strike the Carmichael family a further twice before the war would end. Word would soon reach the family that Henry's nephew Donald Bayne (or Donnie) Carmichael had been killed on 16 August 1917 in Ypres, Belgium while fighting with the Royal Field Artillery. Eight months later Henry's grandson, John Henry Carmichael or Jack, as he was known to the family was also killed at Ypres. He died on 17 April 1918.
Perhaps the greatest irony in the lives of the Carmichael family was that, while Henry spent his days gardening at the War Hospital, in the midst of many men, tortured by what they had experienced of the horror of war, two of his own family would also return badly affected by what they had endured while at war. Henry's other nephew James Stirling Carmichael,